Gatrucker70
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Post by Gatrucker70 on Dec 28, 2010 14:17:04 GMT -5
What are you guys paying for these port pulls to the yard? One place I called just told me they are $50 in & out , but a few others was around $35 or $40 . It doesn't seem like I can afford that kind of deductions just for a pick up & turn in. How much is normal now days for dray pick ups? It seems like the more & more I read the fine lines and ask questions is the less we make on the bottom line .
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Post by billyboy on Dec 29, 2010 16:53:59 GMT -5
most don't charge full price for what they pay local drivers to pick up your load
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Post by yoyo on Dec 29, 2010 18:19:59 GMT -5
forty in forty out you need a twic card
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cheezburger
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Post by cheezburger on Dec 29, 2010 21:42:21 GMT -5
20IN 20OUT AT EVANS
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Post by boxer on Dec 30, 2010 8:47:24 GMT -5
i pik up my own boxes at port. then i don't run but a few loads a week anyway so makes no difference to me.those guys that run out all day everyday are the ones that have to have one waitning on them at barn.
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Post by yoyo on Dec 31, 2010 16:45:06 GMT -5
what is evans surcharge now
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Post by topdog1 on Dec 31, 2010 18:55:19 GMT -5
Evans in Va is at 20% fsc, but say it will go up on the 1st of the month.
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Post by Atrain on Jan 2, 2011 11:16:08 GMT -5
What are you guys paying for these port pulls to the yard? One place I called just told me they are $50 in & out , but a few others was around $35 or $40 . It doesn't seem like I can afford that kind of deductions just for a pick up & turn in. How much is normal now days for dray pick ups? It seems like the more & more I read the fine lines and ask questions is the less we make on the bottom line . |
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Post by Atrain on Jan 2, 2011 11:27:21 GMT -5
that should be 40 a box in & 40 out. if u r a o/o. if i can't get that wit who i work for i will find eslewer to pull.THATS TH BOTTOM LINE.IF I SEE A HOLE I DON'T DRIVE IN IT.A-train over an out!
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Post by crustyoldtrucker on Jan 2, 2011 15:11:36 GMT -5
local city moves should pay $50 bucks in Savannah. if we demanded that. i mean put some teeth into it with driver numbers the companies would pay. until that time it's business as normal.
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Gatrucker70
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Post by Gatrucker70 on Jan 2, 2011 21:23:54 GMT -5
Hey guys thanks for the info on the drays and pull outs. I did get a call back from ODFL and the are deducting $50 for the in and out. That's a $100 total. That's expensive ,so I'm for sure going to look around for a company that has reduced dray costs. I mean $100 for 5 trips is $500 a week.
I'm going to try to pull my own box back into the port since we live locally, but some drivers are saying the pull out are usally on the yard already when you take the dispatch,so you loose the option to save that deduction
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Post by cheezburger on Jan 2, 2011 22:30:52 GMT -5
who are you dealing with cause they are the highest on drays ive heard of,most are 40 and as i said before if you dont have a twic or dont want to deal with the port evans is only 20
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Post by slw rdr on Jan 2, 2011 22:41:06 GMT -5
who are you dealing with cause they are the highest on drays ive heard of,most are 40 and as i said before if you dont have a twic or dont want to deal with the port evans is only 20 Yes they do but they take the difference off the top of the rate Example. Rate to Customer $500 Driver paid 75% of $460 This is to make up for the 40 they are suppose to eat on the local drays. You do the math works out about the same as full drays just looks better to the driver. |
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Post by BrunswickPete88 on Jan 2, 2011 23:01:05 GMT -5
Cheeze- You are right and I work at Evans & she helps us and only deducts $20 for the pull or turn in. I could never afford a $50 in /out fee or $100 per box like GaTrucker is saying.
I understand if they was pulling the extra $40 off if we was paid by percentage, but again our pay is by the mile . Of coarse I would like to be paid more by the mile , but this dray assistance helps me and my partner a lot on 5 or 6 boxes a week if you do the math. That whole % pay scale seems to be to much uncertainty on what a load would pay or not.We like the set pay by the mile much better.
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Post by slw rdr on Jan 2, 2011 23:10:08 GMT -5
Cheeze- You are right and I work at Evans & she helps us and only deducts $20 for the pull or turn in. I could never afford a $50 in /out fee or $100 per box like GaTrucker is saying. I understand if they was pulling the extra $40 off if we was paid by percentage, but again our pay is by the mile . Of coarse I would like to be paid more by the mile , but this dray assistance helps me and my partner a lot on 5 or 6 boxes a week if you do the math. That whole % pay scale seems to be to much uncertainty on what a load would pay or not.We like the set pay by the mile much better. That's even more money the agent makes What do you get paid per mile ( .85 .86?? ) |
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Post by cheezburger on Jan 3, 2011 8:24:11 GMT -5
yes they only pay 82 + fsc but the end result is about the same as the guys running for 72-75% it all comes out around a buck a mile but at least here you don't have to deal with the port if you don't want too,and if you do go in you get the 20 in 20 out on top of your mileage pay + fsc,its all the same just worded different
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Post by Gatrucker70 on Jan 3, 2011 8:37:36 GMT -5
Cheeze- yeah man I'm hearing like .82 /.84/.86 a mile both ways . I don't know that I trust like the road link comments on one pay loaded and one pay empty and another bob tail ? That is to much to agrue over and fishy my wife says with some other drivers complaining
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Post by slw rdr on Jan 3, 2011 8:41:37 GMT -5
yes they only pay 82 + fsc but the end result is about the same as the guys running for 72-75% it all comes out around a buck a mile but at least here you don't have to deal with the port if you don't want too,and if you do go in you get the 20 in 20 out on top of your mileage pay + fsc,its all the same just worded different Here is the break down both ways. Mileage pay .82 + FSC Savannah - Atlanta Ga. PCMiler 245 miles .82 x 245 x2 = 401.80 Now here is the question is the FSC based on $ 401.80 or is it based on the entire rate ? 401.80 + 20 % FSC = 80.36 for total pay of $482.16 If FSC is based on cust rate at an average of 600 for an Atlanta run then the FSC would be $ 120 for total pay of - $ 521.80 Big Difference?  ?? 75 % of $ 600 is $ 450 + FSC of $120 = $ 570 total pay. Now take the drays and lets see which one is better for the driver and which is better for the agent. Mileage pay $482.16 - $ 40 in drays = $442.16 or $521.80 - $ 40 dollars in drays = $481.80 Percentage pay $570 - $ 80 in drays = $490 Either way you figure the mileage the % pay is better for the O/O Now here is the big question does Evans pay the FSC on the .82 per mile or the whole rate? If they are paying on .82 then they are making $50 more per run on every move that should be going to the o/o And they make it look like they are helping you with the low drays...... WOOO HOO isn't that special |
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Post by bobby on Jan 3, 2011 9:35:42 GMT -5
a driver told me this morning that a new company is moving into sav at the end of the month pay around a $1.45 a mile. anyone know who this is? maybe it will get posted over on the pay part pf this talk forum. i keep checking.
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Post by BrunswickPete88 on Jan 3, 2011 17:36:17 GMT -5
slw rdr
I asked the ladies today & she said the FSC is paid on the whole customer rate and not just the driver pay. I did calculate it and it's for sure more then base mileage pay,so it's on all of it. Suprisingly, they even offered to show me the full biling to show me and I pretty much trust them for the 2 years I have been there with being honest. That's more then I could say for my last lease at TCW cause they refused to show me anything when questions came up on just miles paid out once.Me and my wife didn't like that and it seemed fishy
I guess your right on the % breakdown that it all washes out.
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Post by KWKris67 on Jan 3, 2011 17:43:22 GMT -5
slw rdr
You need to keep typing from your desk somewhere and tell us WHAT truckers are paying 75% of a load? I don't know of any paying that. Most are paying 70%-maybe 74%. Let me know so I can move my other truck for 75%.
who says the rate is $600.00 for starters? I think I was paid on ATL run 2 weeks ago and it was a rate of $560 or $570. That's why I don't like the whole percentage payout cause 74% of nothing is nothing. I like the mileage pay much better for myself,but my other truck is still paid percentage over at the other place and it's all over the place and no run is the same even if it's a the same city.
I think most of the companies are on the same playing field, but it's just worded different on the front side.
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Post by cheezburger on Jan 3, 2011 20:53:19 GMT -5
the last post was write on i don't see anyone here in Savannah paying 75%, and lets not forget this Evans agent does not charge back ANY tire bullshi# to the driver and if you are a good driver if you have a repair issue she will help you,i know of times she has done this out of her pocket.now that earns respect from me. now on to the money,do i think it is good! no i don't,but it is comparable with all others,and don't forget the pay is on time and correct every week,that means alot. i know she has to compete to get the freight and she gets alot of it.if she can ever get the money where it needs to be i will buy another truck and be there in a heart beat. and the best part is that they do get you a occasional back haul and you get full rate on both loads. now im not a recruter for this company but it was the best of five i have worked for in the two years that i have been in savannah. and the only one that i didnt loose any money with,
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Post by KWKris67 on Jan 3, 2011 22:03:55 GMT -5
Cheez- a few post back said ***Big Difference? ?? 75 % of $ 600 is $ 450 + FSC of $120 = $ 570 total pay. they was talking about breakdown and pay differences. I was simply saying I don't anyone paying 75% of load . Or that $600 rate to atlanta is far fetched cause I think we pull them for $550-$575 or so. Cheap cheap and we get 74% which is better than most paying 70% or 72% |
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Post by citytruck on Jan 4, 2011 8:18:16 GMT -5
many are paying a lower percentage,68%-734%, because rates are slowly going up and they want to keep everyone doped into the less than $1.00 per mile average. no need paying out anymore money that the majority of fools in sav. will pull it for. i don't see how most road drivers make any money for their labor much less put anything away for truck repairs. i love these adds that broadcast what you make after fuel like everything else is true profit. this just shows you they think like the bigdaddy poster who view is every trucker out here is stupid as s#^t.
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Post by cheezburger on Jan 4, 2011 8:41:57 GMT -5
citytruck i don't think anyone is proud or happy with what we are posting we are just exposing the true facts,at least we don't have some knot heads on here bragging about making big money because we know that's not happening
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