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Post by rjones56 on May 4, 2014 9:05:31 GMT -5
I might have need of a couple of reliable, even-keeled owner operators for steady year round work that will take you home everyday. I mention this here because you all are familiar with what to expect from the ports, I can`t change that. lol.
We have customers in the Roanoke/Salem , Wytheville and Harrisonburg areas for exports back to VIT ports. Loads are overgross (avg 85,000 in a 40` box) non-hazmat (so far). Prefer a more experienced O/O who realizes all the differences between this and OTR work. Also, for the most part a laid back atmosphere where you can be off when you need to be.
Now the FUN part. I need to know what its going to take. Running our placards, your truck. Remember dedicated work year round, check in your mailbox weekly, load and deliver during daytime hours, and no B/S. (not taking any, either.) This is a limited-growth plan meaning adding a couple of trucks is all. Strong preference for OWNER-DRIVER as well. Send me an email with your detailed "all-in" rate. Also a round trip per mile rate for Virginia. Not out here stealing anybodys work, not trying to rate any future work. looking to cover work we are outsourcing and not happy with the results.lol
Reply here or rjoldskool7@gmail.com
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Post by FUSION on May 5, 2014 9:42:21 GMT -5
? - Is this minimum wage working for a O/O or misclassification work? (Not LOL)
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Post by O/O mad on May 5, 2014 18:43:30 GMT -5
Fusion maybe you should reread the original post. pretty clear if you take time to read instead of just skimming a word or two here and there. Notice you ccomment on a lot of posts, can`t decide if you`re stirring the pot or trying to turn this site into your own personal bogspot. LOL
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Post by FUSION on May 5, 2014 19:35:45 GMT -5
Sorry...LOL
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Post by FUSION on May 5, 2014 19:43:57 GMT -5
Loads are overgross (avg 85,000 in a 40` box). -- Is that premium pay that's over 1.50/m? 
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Post by rjones56 on May 11, 2014 19:25:09 GMT -5
Hey Fusion, reread my original again. This is something you can put your own realistic rate on, and I will go from there. Of course, I don`t need to remind you what everybody else would haul for. It will require some thought, driver, if you are serious. Your comments seem to be more along the "baiting " line , which is okay except that it offers so little towards anything that COULD actually make a positive difference for you. Like I said originally- shoot me some rates Ive already given the areas. On a side note I have another potential direct customer that needs a reliable owner/operator. Probably 8-10 loads a month from the southern part of the Shenandoah Valley. Im not interested in having another driver, and Im busy as I want to be already. Just trying to help my customers, and maybe a couple of you who are tired of the way things are going for you. All you have to be is smart enough to know what can change, and what can`t.
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Post by FUSION on May 11, 2014 20:39:08 GMT -5
KOOL! rjones56, your on the right track, one driver at a time. You don't have to be just a thinking, but a do-er too.
Better than Funny-Facebook Land. Enough said, driver. Great Job.
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Post by coolbreeze32 on May 13, 2014 19:50:58 GMT -5
the rates are increasing. of course the money is not making it to the trucker. $1.50 per mile should be standard. i am talking real miles. not fairy tale miles. that is not really enough but should be minimum everywhere. i still see guys at this port running for ninety cents. that's insane. they are d**n idiots. most companies enjoy hiring idiots. yes they like drivers who have no idea what their cost are. there has been a steady supply of them until recently. i believe that is about to end sooner then later. twenty years out here has made me see things differently. i still have a little pride left so i do not work cheap. i would rather sit at the house and go broke then bust my a&& and break my tractor for these port companies.
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Post by joe white on May 15, 2014 6:45:17 GMT -5
these customers are gonna appreciate any truckers by years end. with all the new rules, sorry driver wages, and cheap freight rates the companies try pass off now to the o/o there will be a real shortage of qualified truckers. i would be willing to bet who ever survives this mess with their truck intact will finally make some good money.
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Post by FUSION on May 15, 2014 15:45:01 GMT -5
I was just talking to a driver when I saw this write-up, joe white. And your right drivers are losing more than they know. Read an article on Land Line (OOIDA) mag and saw that they (FMSCA) are still pushing for electronic logs. Do I have to say anymore. I think, No, I know I will be selling my truck. Bye, Bye qualify drivers.
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Post by twistlock on May 16, 2014 13:54:08 GMT -5
Yes I too think we're in for a couple good years starting late 2014. Hang in there. Keep your truck in good shape. There's less people wanting the increasing headache in this industry. It's high time for a real pay off for truckers who have earned it. I consider myself lucky to be able to wait it out.
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Post by FUSION on May 17, 2014 6:58:37 GMT -5
Yes I too think we're in for a couple good years starting late 2014. Hang in there. Keep your truck in good shape. There's less people wanting the increasing headache in this industry. It's high time for a real pay off for truckers who have earned it. I consider myself lucky to be able to wait it out. DUH? Keeping your truck in shape is one thing, but when new regulations and E-logs kick in, how do you make money? Please reply, I'm on a need to know basis and I need to know like yesterday. Real pay will come when drivers grow a pair. Their is opportunity now to make so-call real pay / money if you knew how. Drivers don't know the concept of negotiation. Sad. 
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Post by ilovdieselsmoke on May 17, 2014 17:35:09 GMT -5
Don't anyone be fooled the money is there. Even with intermodal loads, usually at the bottom of the pile, rates are increasing. The motor carriers are certainly collecting the extra bucks. Well maybe not all of them are. A few are idiots like those lease-operators they hire who are willing to work for peanuts. My customers need trucks period. They are looking for service today not next week. Just look at all the current postings on the local load boards. They are bursting at the seems once again. There's no excuse for hauling cheap freight unless you're a chump for abuse. Actually I saw no reason to haul it in the first place. I'd rather park the truck and go get a job somewhere. Why wear out my truck from settlement check to settlement check... I really don't understand the mentality of some drivers still hauling loads for a buck per mile? First I say education is a critical issue if you're going to hold any type driver meetings. Get these guys to attend meetings where the subject is about cost of operation. How do you get these drivers together or hold their interest? That's the million dollar question. How does dispatch get them to haul these half-a$$ crap loads everyday. Maybe there's a trick to redirecting their brain cells in the right direction? I don't know the answers but we are looking at kicking off several driver meetings again in the south covering a multitude of important subjects so I'll let everyone know how that goes soon. I believe it's now time to highlight some media attention on issues coming down the pike that may drive a lot of independent contractors out of business in the next couple of years including also the increase in insurance premiums the federal government is pushing for. The new HOS rules coupled with EOB's will lead next to speed limiting devices the FMCSA wants so desperately so truckers had better wake-up and do a little lobbying on their own or remain silent while the government takes away every drop of freedom the country was founded on.... Just my thoughts!
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Post by FUSION on May 18, 2014 9:02:09 GMT -5
Your comments are merited. As you said: First I say education is a critical issue if you're going to hold any type driver meetings. Get these guys to attend meetings where the subject is about cost of operation. How do you get these drivers together or hold their interest? - Port Delay should be the main topic. They the port's management are crying the blues when it comes to the state losing money. So, how do we hold drivers attention when they are dumbing down while sitting for well over 2 plus hours at the port? We need answers on this site so we as drivers can collectively forward the thought to the media. The Mind use as a Media on porttrucker.com, as a way forward.
To connect to your follow-up statement: I believe it's now time to highlight some media attention on issues coming down the pike that may drive a lot of independent contractors out of business in the next couple of years including also the increase in insurance premiums the federal government is pushing for. The new HOS rules coupled with EOB's will lead next to speed limiting devices the FMCSA wants so desperately so truckers had better wake-up and do a little lobbying on their own or remain silent while the government takes away every drop of freedom the country was founded on.... Just my thoughts!
It's not a thought, it's a reality slowly becoming. Some drivers have OOIDA membership but won't concern themselves with their future. So are they silent or stupid. Education is the first line of defense when it comes to self-empowerment. In conclusion, no young and inexperience moderator on Funny-Facebook can provide that!
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Post by gemi3 on May 22, 2014 23:07:33 GMT -5
u driver are full pi^^. u will do what told u by disptch. they say run this load u go withno question no mater wht pay is. not one of u will standup. that wil never hapen so give up or get out of contaner.
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Post by FUSION on May 23, 2014 15:01:55 GMT -5
u driver are full pi^^. u will do what told u by disptch. they say run this load u go withno question no mater wht pay is. not one of u will standup. that wil never hapen so give up or get out of contaner. Baby Boy, calm down. Please use spell check when ever possible. But you know, you are right turn down freight when possible but always negotiate. Chose driver-friendly freight for a happy driver & truck. 
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Post by ilovdieselsmoke on May 24, 2014 22:52:55 GMT -5
u driver are full pi^^. u will do what told u by disptch. they say run this load u go withno question no mater wht pay is. not one of u will standup. that wil never hapen so give up or get out of contaner.
Yeah well your half right, half wit! Sadly most out here don't know what the cost are to run their own d**n truck. They don't have a clue what they should be making to not only survive but make a profit! Yes we're in desperate need of a trucking 101 class for many of these late starters. That's especially true for dozens of those behind the wheel of these multiple owned company buy here, pay here, lose it here next month tractors.. WOW. sorry but it's the truth hotshot. Just look around at this dysfunctional port trucking system. It sucks! How will we ever get truckers interested to attend a meeting that's purpose is to educate the potential or current owner-op? It's sad to witness so many people on a fast track to bankruptcy. OK, I know there are carrier agents looking at this site so what are you going to do when you run out of victims? Imagine that. No more lease-operators to rob blind on a weekly basis. |
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Post by johnciely on May 25, 2014 6:29:10 GMT -5
I have a question when you guys talk freight rates of $1.50 per mile are you counting all compensation? Fuel surcharge, hazmat pay, overweight pay? I've been at this (port container work) for about a year. As I figure it my cost of operations (salary not included) has been about $.88 per mile.
John
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Post by joe w on May 25, 2014 12:43:47 GMT -5
every trucker should be able to pay them-self at least .50 per mile for your driving and the many other responsibilities which go along with owning a truck. that's driver pay not truck pay or to be confused with profit. profit is what the truck makes after all other necessary expenses are paid out including that driver pay. i could see around one dollar fifty cents being a reasonable figure. that's probably fifty cents more per mile then most these drivers make here in virginia. trucking companies are keeping rates paid to o/o's in check.
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Post by oneofmany on May 26, 2014 15:13:54 GMT -5
i stayed working at evans for a little over a month guys. any longer i would have gone broke. they are mostly drop and hook loads at this terminal. you run day and night. there is no way to pull your box out of port so can not get out of paying for local draymen. maybe if you work 24 hrs a day and can burn candle at both ends but i am not a evens' super trucker like some they have working. maybe a better word is evans' super zombies driving semi-conscious behind the wheel of forty tons of highway projectile. after all said and done i averaged between $.90 to $.96 per actual miles traveled to their port customers and back to yard. what a bunch of bs this is. no more for me. eveyone i talk with seems to be at the magical dollar per mile no matter what the company advertises. its all the same sugar coated bs. you run till you drop, wreck, kill or injure someone.
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Post by k. stevens on May 27, 2014 12:25:40 GMT -5
yes drivers forget to pay themselves anything for labor. the truck doesn't make profit until all expense paid including labor like you say. i see these trucking companies pay only thirty to fifty cents above cost of diesel per mile. everywhere you go it's same stinking story. until drivers realize what cost are this will never change. the companies are sure not going top wise anyone up now are they?
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Post by rjones56 on May 29, 2014 19:45:31 GMT -5
My original thread started May 4,2014 has been hijacked into a b*t@h session about rates. WTF  Not one serious reply here or to my email makes me realize that those of you who commented must be happy where you`re at. My writing skills are limited but I thought it was worded well enough to prove legit. In case any of you go back to the start of this thread I`m still interested in hearing your serious ready to go next week rate. Add Wytheville as well. Customer cant get trucks- Wytheville to port a hard days turn. What would it take?? Or would you all just prefer to discuss it here and stay with the crappy companies you`re with. Man up, put a price on it. E-mail or here but please reread my original post. |
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Post by FUSION on May 30, 2014 7:31:25 GMT -5
You live, you learn...
P.S. oneofmany, Evans is on the list of trucking Cos. to stay away from. More to come...
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Sign-up drivers. Join the discussion. Be counted. Strength in numbers, voiced as one. Unity!
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Post by h b king on Jun 5, 2014 5:29:13 GMT -5
I have a question when you guys talk freight rates of $1.50 per mile are you counting all compensation? Fuel surcharge, hazmat pay, overweight pay? I've been at this (port container work) for about a year. As I figure it my cost of operations (salary not included) has been about $.88 per mile. John hey driver,that doesn't cover fuel cost plus my truckin expenses. i figure more like about $1.14 per every mile traveled to make it work. truck,fuel,maintenance,tag,insurance,etc,without paying myself. another fifty cents per mi should cover me. now lets talk about making a profit for my truck which is not included in the buck fourteen rate. |
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Post by FUSION on Jun 9, 2014 7:25:55 GMT -5
oneofmany, sound like a job for FTBT For Truckers By Truckers is an organization to improve driver livelihood among individuals with a common interest. Mission: For Truckers By Truckers mission is provide a Platform for the Trucking industry to communicate, and resolve issues through comprehensive action. Our vision is to empower Professional drivers with the knowledge & support necessary to increase revenue and sustain their equipment. Email: Fortruckersbytruckers757@gmail.com Website: www.facebook.com/fortruckersbytruckers |
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Not one serious reply here or to my email makes me realize that those of you who commented must be happy where you`re at. My writing skills are limited but I thought it was worded well enough to prove legit. In case any of you go back to the start of this thread I`m still interested in hearing your serious ready to go next week rate. Add Wytheville as well. Customer cant get trucks- Wytheville to port a hard days turn. What would it take?? Or would you all just prefer to discuss it here and stay with the crappy companies you`re with. Man up, put a price on it. E-mail or here but please reread my original post.