yanis
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Post by yanis on Apr 9, 2012 22:37:17 GMT -5
I see a lot of owner operators enjoying driving their trucks and averaging 200 dollars a day after all overhead deductions while some others say it is not worth the investment of a $60.000 truck for that kind of money in a 12 hours work day even with a $10.000 dollars truck does not make sens.
HOW MUCH IS AN OWNER OPERATOR REALLY WORTH >:( ??? ???
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Post by DaMan on Apr 9, 2012 22:48:21 GMT -5
$200 per day is decent driver pay with some type health insurance & retirement included in mix. Are we talking $200 per day after everything? Profit, fixed cost, fuel, something put up for repairs, future equipment replacement, etc? Are we talking OTR or city? $200 for city work is OK. But if that $200 is what's left over after just paying fuel that's another case of pure BS.
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yanis
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Post by yanis on Apr 9, 2012 23:22:15 GMT -5
I was not talking about otr . the work is local i mean from the port to either nearby warehouses or around 200 miles radius also does not include truck replacement and some money put aside for repairs. the $200 is what's left after the visible expenses which are the fuel , insurance .tags
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Post by terry on Apr 10, 2012 6:41:41 GMT -5
i think the other guy answered your question. two hundred dollars left over is not enough money for owning truck. if i were a company driver that would be on the scale of decent if health insurance went along with that amount. two hundred for ownership sucks  |
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rule1
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Post by rule1 on Apr 10, 2012 8:46:46 GMT -5
I see a lot of owner operators enjoying driving their trucks and averaging 200 dollars a day after all overhead deductions while some others say it is not worth the investment of a $60.000 truck for that kind of money in a 12 hours work day even with a $10.000 dollars truck does not make sens. HOW MUCH IS AN OWNER OPERATOR REALLY WORTH   I agree with the other replies that you have received. When you factor in health insurance, retirement, repairs, etc. If you are an o/o with $200/day, each one of those will easily put you very close to the red line. As an Independent driver who is not an o/o, I am getting around $200/day. I can tell you that the fleet owner is constantly complaining about truck repairs, fuel prices, etc.. These are headaches I do not wish on anyone. I'm not saying that being an o/o is wrong. I envy their persistence and value their guidance. As an individual you are in the driver's seat of your own destiny. So, choose what is in YOUR best interest. It is your hard earned money. Get & keep the lifestyle you deserve. Stay safe!!  |
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Post by cj on Apr 10, 2012 11:55:29 GMT -5
$200 per day is decent driver pay with some type health insurance & retirement included in mix. Are we talking $200 per day after everything? Profit, fixed cost, fuel, something put up for repairs, future equipment replacement, etc? Are we talking OTR or city? $200 for city work is OK. But if that $200 is what's left over after just paying fuel that's another case of pure BS. i like this drivers way of considering cost. i would add after those figures are calculated you should make sure to have at least a remaining $.50 cents driving which at an average of 55 miles per hour over the road would come to $27.50 per hour. that's average because your not going to be driving 70 nor 40 all the time so that's a good average. remember some of that time is spent at the docks,paperwrk,service your truck,other non pay owner-driver functions so while your behind the wheel you should make sure you are making between $27 to$30 per hr. these stupid companies who post on here with their $14 to$15 per hr for operating your own business are living in the sixties age. how many of these agents will work for $15 per hr. we all know the answer to that. non! |
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Post by jerdan on Apr 10, 2012 16:53:03 GMT -5
thats big problem here , plenty $fifteen dollar hr owner,ops in this town ready to be dispatched  |
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Post by BigHorsePower on Apr 11, 2012 15:21:14 GMT -5
I see a lot of owner operators enjoying driving their trucks and averaging 200 dollars a day after all overhead deductions while some others say it is not worth the investment of a $60.000 truck for that kind of money in a 12 hours work day even with a $10.000 dollars truck does not make sens. HOW MUCH IS AN OWNER OPERATOR REALLY WORTH >:( ??? ??? How can you "enjoy" working your @$$ off all day running your own equipment with the end result being $200 if that's the correct figure after every business deduction? That SUCKS! No that's not worth the investment nor the headache in this business. |
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Post by TonyB on Apr 12, 2012 7:02:58 GMT -5
AMEN!
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Post by fredflintstone on Apr 13, 2012 14:37:01 GMT -5
$four dollars per loaded mile for general freight such as port containers. that my friend is called trucking not some half baked poverty  |
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Post by bigblacktruck on Apr 15, 2012 22:26:36 GMT -5
I talked to ROAD LINK last week. They told me, "we have truckers averaging over ninety cents per mile "
The guy was serious as he could be
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Post by jason on Apr 16, 2012 10:09:37 GMT -5
they are same company who advertise make big money! dream on.
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Post by pkd5757 on Apr 16, 2012 18:44:48 GMT -5
That probably included the fuel surcharge!
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Post by ilovdieselsmoke on Apr 16, 2012 21:38:02 GMT -5
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Post by dirtytruck on Apr 17, 2012 19:05:29 GMT -5
another giant trucking company bleeding the owner-operator dry. cheap,cheap,cheap |
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Post by Just Asking on Apr 17, 2012 19:47:49 GMT -5
I think your numbers are fair at 27.50 and up per hour after expenses. My question is then why is it I have O/O making that and more and still here it isn't enough. Understand I would like to see the rates increase, but with all the agents that operate here that have whored up the market it is very hard to keep the pitiful rates we get now. But of course it is still our fault that many O/O choose to pull freight for the very Co. that have ruined this market. I know that is not all of you but I just don't understand why it seems that all the anger is pointed at every Co. in town when there are a couple that pay all they can and still get named on here by the few that really don't want to work as terrible and cheaters. We had an O/O leave owing us 5,000.00 and we didn't try to sue for the money, but it will hurt the rest because now we cannot help them when they have a problem without getting a note signed agreeing to pay no matter what. When before this happened we would just take care of it and set up a payment schedule. There are bad on both sides I but when you lump the true Co in with the agents it just isn't fair. And I know that life isn't fair, just realize there are some out here that wish you all the best.
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Post by blueiron on Apr 17, 2012 21:12:33 GMT -5
which company in savannah,ga pays this amount? if your talking $27.50 per hour for my labor to drive after all trucking expense are paid including a decent profit from the rental of my truck that;s a good start but if your talking that amount after paying the fuel bill only then no thanks. we are right back to square one. i didn't buy a truck to work harder for less money.
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Post by hightop on Apr 18, 2012 0:16:11 GMT -5
maybe he's not talking sav,ga? i don't see any container company paying money worth a crap up here in virginia. they can't seem to understand why no one wants to work for them. i quit last month. looking for flatbed or something else to pull after ten years in port trucking. sad we have to go elsewhere because this trucking is so d**n cheap. i have two trucks so the last one to work is the one i drive. the other has been parked since thanks given. the driver found a better job in construction so i never bothered replace him. not for this kinda money. better off parked in back yard. i will just find somethin for the one truck to do.
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Post by wheeler on Apr 18, 2012 6:23:08 GMT -5
jus wait til freight picks up late this year. they think driver shortage now. it is gonna get much worse. supply & demand.
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Post by rollcall on Apr 18, 2012 11:41:16 GMT -5
I talked to ROAD LINK last week. They told me, "we have truckers averaging over ninety cents per mile "
The guy was serious as he could be
That's because ROAD DINK dispatches you with disc-jockeys not dispatchers so you have to sacrifice a little of your pay to enjoy that type O/Op benefit. loving it dude ;D |
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yanis
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Post by yanis on Apr 19, 2012 2:04:12 GMT -5
$200 per day is $ 50000 a year from which you deduct $20000 for maintenance and repairs and truck replacement fund or truck payment whatever you wanna call it. the net becomes $30000 .This what the average port trucker is making here in Oakland on a 10 to 12 hours work day .in other word about $ 12 an hour, so we are very far from the $27.5 you are talking about. Of course we have a lot of owner operators making more but it comes with longer hours and illegal stuff
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Post by jockeyman on Apr 19, 2012 10:43:17 GMT -5
$200 per day is $ 50000 a year from which you deduct $20000 for maintenance and repairs and truck replacement fund or truck payment whatever you wanna call it. the net becomes $30000 .This what the average port trucker is making here in Oakland on a 10 to 12 hours work day .in other word about $ 12 an hour, so we are very far from the $27.5 you are talking about. Of course we have a lot of owner operators making more but it comes with longer hours and illegal stuff dude, $200 per day is driver pay. that is not an owner-operator. if this is true the owner-operator is giving his truck away. this is what's wrong now with containers. people are working for nothing. truck replacement & the current truck payment are also two different things. you may be making payments but you d**n well better be putting away savings for the next truck. there are people out here that don't need to be in business if you can call what they are doing a business??? |
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Post by largecar on Apr 19, 2012 13:32:01 GMT -5
I see a lot of owner operators enjoying driving their trucks and averaging 200 dollars a day after all overhead deductions while some others say it is not worth the investment of a $60.000 truck for that kind of money in a 12 hours work day even with a $10.000 dollars truck does not make sens. HOW MUCH IS AN OWNER OPERATOR REALLY WORTH >:( ??? ??? When you first made this post YANIS you said all overhead deductions with the amount of $200 left over. I see you now are taking those deductions out of the $200 left over. What do you make or do you expect to make at the end of the day with your truck? Lets make it easy. Let's just say after paying one major expense. How about the cost of fuel? How much do you think should be left per mile after the fuel is deducted as an otr operator. $$? I can tell you from a local truck perspective that I like to average at least $65.00 per hr in the city. I think that is a fair average price for any tractor for normal city mileage plus time spent around the terminals. That's $650 per day for a ten hour day. |
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Post by mitch on Apr 20, 2012 6:52:00 GMT -5
sounds like drivers in oakland,ca are working for food stamps.
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Post by chuck on Apr 20, 2012 15:52:35 GMT -5
it's one thing to be caught up in a bad situation that you have to work for food stamps until digging yourself out but another to enjoy being a beggar while the bosses live like f%c$*ng royalty? what up with this attitude?
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