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Post by HardTimeTrucker on Aug 1, 2008 7:10:51 GMT -5
wildman
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« Reply #2 Yesterday at 8:21pm »
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Just lost my contract because I refused to pull overload for standard pay. My agent says she is losing her a** on the rate of about 30% because contractors like myself does not pull trash freight. Any come back on the agent?
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Post by phantom309 on Aug 1, 2008 10:41:14 GMT -5
Typical mentality of most agents who have never sat behind the wheel or who have no idea of ownership expense involved in a class eight truck. Each time you pull one of these heavy loads there is damage & wear occurring on every drive line part including engine, transmission, wheel bearings, brakes, everything. It may take months to catch up but when it finally does, 'tis going to be mighty expensive not even counting all the extra fuel you burn.
I stay away from reefers, paper, tile, etc., unless it's paying a real premium price to move. Some of this containerized garbage should be paying lowboy rates to pull it down the highway. Those agencies who have no investment what so ever in equipment are the worst to cut these rates because no matter how heavy the load it can't bust up their office equipment. 
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Post by petedabroker on Aug 1, 2008 14:27:56 GMT -5
What is trash freight? Oh, yes, I remember , that is almost every load any driver handles today. LOL
So you lost your lease buddy. Join the club. and if all did what you did , you will see the trash load become the cream load once again. Refused to pull one and a half times the weight for the same price. Hum, what that means is your least company tried to pocket the extra money for themselves, before you caught them. Its bulls#*t if they say otherwise. No shipper is going to agree to the same price for a load that is very much higher in weight than previous loads. They will all bend a little and give in , if presented via a thread of common sense by the broker or trucking company. Its a crap story if they tell you otherwise. Traffic managers for large or even small companies don't become traffic managers because the are a bunch of idiots. They certainly understand that higher volume and higher weight equals higher price. That being said, you now need a job. Well I don't know a darn thing about you to even suggest who you might get on with. You might be the Godzilla of trucking or a road turd as far as I know. If your credential's are good and valid, I might suggest moving into specialized cargo such as hazardous materials, military goods, or alike. At least the money is still good there. Higher degree of risk, but better money. I know that Land Star , Boyle in Mass, Tri-State, and others. Most of the time they require certainly all the attachments to your CDL, but also duel drivers. Partner, I am just being honest and have no real information as to the type of driver you are, other than one who will not take crap loads. Hope this might help.
Peter
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Post by wildman on Aug 2, 2008 10:20:05 GMT -5
My truck is not crap, I am not crap, got haz, twic card etc. Released but not sure if I will stay.
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Post by wildman on Aug 2, 2008 10:34:10 GMT -5
Forgot to add I only do city work. Road work is definately a no touch.
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Post by petedabroker on Aug 2, 2008 14:33:37 GMT -5
Certainly never called you/truck trash, just had no idea as to where you fit on the truckers pole of life.
City work? Thats restrictive for a driver, but most find out who is good and who is not rather quickly. Look for a carrier with a good reputation, where drivers like to roost. Remember if your carrier never took the cheap loads in the first place , they would not be trying to shove them down your throat as its results. If you are good, you will land with a good carrier. Both have a habit of finding each other. On time, well conducted drivers, always find good jobs. Just take your time this go around and do it right.
Best of luck,
PEter
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Post by petedabroker on Aug 2, 2008 15:27:22 GMT -5
Wildman, one more thing about your overweight container.
Best reaction is, since you are computer litterate. Take the load. Send an email to your carrier that states , you are staking the load to the scales to be weigh. I will report my findings upon locating the closest scale. You call DOT, give them your location, they legally need to send portable scales to your location, because of a liability issue. They take you axle weights, issue you a fine, and either shut you down , or if the weight is an allowable overage , you go on your way. You report back to your company that you were fined in transit to the closest scales. They have no right to hold you responsible , they need to pay the fine, and you laugh all the way to the terminal. You better believe that owner of that trucking company will start making sure you are not pulling no overweight containers in future. You can never get overweight permits for container loads. Most have divisable loads and I.C.C. regulations do not allow permits for divisable loads. Yes, you lost the load, but all that crap will stop happening.
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Post by petedabroker on Aug 6, 2008 11:36:45 GMT -5
Remember one very important factor when it comes to overweight permits for container moves. Most have restricted routes. I would estimate that well over 90% of the permits issue do not cover the territory they were designed and most carriers run illegally while holding these permits. They were designed to run containers from port to port , if the port of embarkation was different from the receiving port. They never were meant to haul heavy weight goods from shipper to the port. In Maryland, if caught off route, you are subjected to have all your granted permits pulled. Law enforcement is very clouded, on the use of these permits. Often my drivers would go into a weight station and be released , just because they had the permit in hand. They were on illegal routes, but still let off. Read the permits , they will tell you all the routes allowed and restrictions that apply.
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Post by Ladypowerdriver on Aug 17, 2008 12:41:31 GMT -5
Wildman, one more thing about your overweight container. Best reaction is, since you are computer litterate. Take the load. Send an email to your carrier that states , you are staking the load to the scales to be weigh. I will report my findings upon locating the closest scale. You call DOT, give them your location, they legally need to send portable scales to your location, because of a liability issue. They take you axle weights, issue you a fine, and either shut you down , or if the weight is an allowable overage , you go on your way. You report back to your company that you were fined in transit to the closest scales. They have no right to hold you responsible , they need to pay the fine, and you laugh all the way to the terminal. You better believe that owner of that trucking company will start making sure you are not pulling no overweight containers in future. You can never get overweight permits for container loads. Most have divisable loads and I.C.C. regulations do not allow permits for divisable loads. Yes, you lost the load, but all that crap will stop happening. Pete, man, that is some real fire power. It may take[glow=red,2,300]big kahunas[/glow]but the difference it would make would be worth it. With that kind of thinking behind the association( drivers) , we could really turn the tables on these scumbags. Now the driver is without a job, and the company will find another driver who will pull the load, with not a second thought of changing their practices. By taking other measures, it would show up on the companys safety report and etc, someone will pay attention. Even if driver was then fired it would leave the company with a paper trail of violations. To me that has it advantages and then some. Thats all the more reason to work hard to get our trucks in shape(no matter what)so that even DOT can be used to our advantage. So what if things get a little ugly, it's been ugly for us for years. It's not personal, It's just business! |
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Post by petedabroker on Aug 19, 2008 8:03:56 GMT -5
We all know that extended weights for containers is a bunch of crap. The Feds don't allow it, its only the individual states that have bent to allow big business exactly what they want, and when they want it, all done on the (litterally) backs of the OO's, and mostly done without renumerations. On overweight containers, most of the time the axle weights , somewhere along the line, will not be legal. After all , what do a bunch of low wage Chinese care about stuffing a nose full of weight into a container? Most of the time your steering axle will be over. Believe it or not , you need to point that out to the scale house. Those dummies there see all that weight and believe you are actually legal to haul 100,000#. Remember most axle's will be illegal and you are not legal at that point. Even 20' on tri-axle chassis, will not be legal if Bridge Laws are enforced. Slider chassis do not increase weight per axle's, they only help somewhat in the Bridge Laws for space between axles. Hit the companies in the pocketbook where it really hurts. It will end almost immediately. You are right Ladypowerdriver, its business and nothing personal. In Baltimore, we have a news person named Jane Miller , who loves working stories about the welfare of our citizens. I am sure most news stations have that same type of investigative reporter. Use them also. Once call and the can of worms is open. Your position is simple, Hell I have no idea how they all found out about this. Snicker when you say it. LOL
Peter
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