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Post by ORGANIZER on Dec 9, 2009 23:50:43 GMT -5
Hello Mr (hardtime), We know that you are one of those behind this movement to support the old independent contractor status desired by the American Trucking Association. You're not doing truck drivers justice by delaying the unavoidable employee mandate that is sure to be implemented at ports nationwide. Poorly funded immigrant drivers cannot afford newer model trucks or the expensive maintenance required to be performed on current engines to cleanse the atmosphere of today's diesel pollutants. Truck drivers are doomed to remain the weak link in ocean shipping because as an independent contractor you will never accomplish any leverage leasing a truck as small owner/operator business. Truck ownership should not be left to private individuals but controlled only by large responsible companies who are pre approved by the ports to do business with environmentally clean safe equipment. With positive support from thousands of truckers the clean truck campaign is working to relieve the ownership responsibility associated with port drivers now. Making a decent wage as an employee driver on a company owned truck is a preferred option for the majority of drivers. Why would any driver want to continue working while held responsible paying for or maintaining a truck if given the choice to drive a new company truck without any ownership headache? The majority of truckers we recently poled say they would gladly turn over this owner responsibility if given the chance to drive for a secure company operating out of the ports. I say to everyone here, think about how much better your life would be without the liability of truck ownership that strangles you now.
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Post by hilltopNC on Dec 10, 2009 0:44:49 GMT -5
Your a f_ _ _ ing idiot looser organizer. You think I'll give up my truck to go back to driving a company truck? Why don't you try come take it you jerk off. Funny I don't know any of the truckers u speak of that so willingly would give up their ride. We may all be having a rough time right now but that will change in time. Something called individual pride is one ingredient that goes along with ownership. Guts is another. I guess being of the social collective Red color you wouldn't know anything about true individualism in America though would you?
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Post by hammerdown85 on Dec 10, 2009 5:38:34 GMT -5
you remind me were i come from comunist CUBA .
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Post by twistlock on Dec 11, 2009 15:45:46 GMT -5
you remind me were i come from comunist CUBA . Great comeback hammerdown ;D |
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Post by HardTimeTrucker on Dec 11, 2009 20:31:36 GMT -5
Hello Mr (hardtime), We know that you are one of those behind this movement to support the old independent contractor status desired by the American Trucking Association. You're not doing truck drivers justice by delaying the unavoidable employee mandate that is sure to be implemented at ports nationwide. Poorly funded immigrant drivers cannot afford newer model trucks or the expensive maintenance required to be performed on current engines to cleanse the atmosphere of today's diesel pollutants. Truck drivers are doomed to remain the weak link in ocean shipping because as an independent contractor you will never accomplish any leverage leasing a truck as small owner/operator business. Truck ownership should not be left to private individuals but controlled only by large responsible companies who are pre approved by the ports to do business with environmentally clean safe equipment. With positive support from thousands of truckers the clean truck campaign is working to relieve the ownership responsibility associated with port drivers now. Making a decent wage as an employee driver on a company owned truck is a preferred option for the majority of drivers. Why would any driver want to continue working while held responsible paying for or maintaining a truck if given the choice to drive a new company truck without any ownership headache? The majority of truckers we recently poled say they would gladly turn over this owner responsibility if given the chance to drive for a secure company operating out of the ports. I say to everyone here, think about how much better your life would be without the liability of truck ownership that strangles you now. Sorry to hear things are not going so well for your campaign Mr. anonymous ORGANIZER. Maybe next time your big shot Teamster/CTW leadership will ask the trucker (or worker) what goals h/she would like to achieve before forcing your communistic ideas of taking away the right to individual truck ownership upon the hard working driver. In the beginning this Teamster port driver campaign was all about helping the trucker but somehow it became bogged down in a political quagmire among greedy leadership looking to advance themselves instead of truly helping the little guy negotiate a fair contract for the work real truckers do. Your current managers of this port campaign are no better than many of the miserable low life motor carrier creeps we have had to deal with for years. You have practically no trucker support for this incredibly stupid Change-To-Win Clean Truck Plan that your cronies devised behind closed doors to destroy the very worker you promised to help. Your leadership has consistently lied to the media about majority port driver support as well as falsely accused the owner/operator trucker of being the majority air polluter on the waterfront. If I were you I would be looking for other organizing work because I think your all new port driver campaign is about to become an expensive failure after the new year for all the good dues paying members of the union who believed the right thing was being done here.  |
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Post by dieseljockey on Dec 13, 2009 9:04:40 GMT -5
Hey ORGANIZER, your a pathetic lier  |
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Post by twilightzone on Dec 14, 2009 0:28:18 GMT -5
I think about how much better my life would be without these green a$$holes trying to take away my d**n truck. These people really p*ss me off with their save the world BS when there isn't even a crisis.
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Post by littleredtruck on Dec 15, 2009 22:36:56 GMT -5
i ave been working the port for last thirty years. what diesel soot? why am i now dead from diesel fumes? this is stupid tree huggers or somegroup with more then clean air on mind.
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Post by pennysaver on Dec 15, 2009 23:01:59 GMT -5
this green stuff is just foolish talk but these people are also extremely dangerous if left unchecked.
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Post by charleston oop on Mar 28, 2012 13:58:46 GMT -5
so hows that unavoidable employee mandate working out so far for ya stupid organizer  give up my truck? over my dead body! |
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Post by Nocigar on Mar 28, 2012 16:02:40 GMT -5
Communism at it's finest.KEEP ON TRUCKIN!
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Post by yanis on Mar 28, 2012 22:10:19 GMT -5
THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES HERE IN OAKLAND OFFERING AS MUCH AS 8000 DOLLARS BONUS TOWARDS A PURCHASE OF A NEWER EQUIPMENT... WHY WILL THEY DO IT IF THEY THINK IT WILL BE MORE PROFITABLE FOR THEM TO HIRE DRIVERS INSTEAD OF OWNER OPERATORS ,. CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THIS QUESTION BESIDE C O M M U N I S M
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Post by r manodrs on Mar 29, 2012 9:00:58 GMT -5
sure they screw over oo's. everywhere not jus oakland,ca but that hasn't anything to do with what i am reading about teamsters & greenies trying to take away my truck. thats worse then these cheating companies. this is america where we still have choice so far that i know. no one forces anybody to move cheap freight. that is driver decision. i dont haul cheap. i d**n sure dont want any group telling me i cant own a truck any longer. if you dont want a truck thats your own decision but dont force your thoughts on me. plain and simple that is socialism by government.
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Post by canhauler on Mar 29, 2012 16:40:06 GMT -5
I can believe that. $8,000, hmmm a lot of coins for a sign on bonus. I wouldn't buy any new truck. There's nothing wrong with my old one. It makes same money as a brand new truck without big time payments. I understand those guys can't work without new trucks in the west thanks to the meddling environmental nuts but I don't see where the port rates are supportive of that new iron. If I lived out there I would work my truck somewhere else besides containers unless they paid better. If they did I would pickup outside the port on a drop yard.
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Post by hammerdown85 on Apr 1, 2012 16:15:34 GMT -5
hey , this is america the united states your day dreaming that is socialisim that is not going to happen owner operetor is american as apple pie you will loose any way get you your own truck and haul dry van live an american life.+
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Post by ilovdieselsmoke on Apr 1, 2012 17:47:36 GMT -5
THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES HERE IN OAKLAND OFFERING AS MUCH AS 8000 DOLLARS BONUS TOWARDS A PURCHASE OF A NEWER EQUIPMENT... WHY WILL THEY DO IT IF THEY THINK IT WILL BE MORE PROFITABLE FOR THEM TO HIRE DRIVERS INSTEAD OF OWNER OPERATORS ,. CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THIS QUESTION BESIDE C O M M U N I S M
You don't think owner/operators should be allowed to work? We know that the companies like contracting out the work because of the many advantages using independent contractors instead of company employees.. I think owner operator truckers should all get better money, not be disqualified from operating in a free market. Truckers need to find a way to work under a contract together whether they are company employees or lease/operators. At least in this country we do have the right to chose between driving a company truck or leasing our own to the company.. |
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Post by oboy@ivorva on Apr 3, 2012 16:03:33 GMT -5
THERE ARE SOME COMPANIES HERE IN OAKLAND OFFERING AS MUCH AS 8000 DOLLARS BONUS TOWARDS A PURCHASE OF A NEWER EQUIPMENT... WHY WILL THEY DO IT IF THEY THINK IT WILL BE MORE PROFITABLE FOR THEM TO HIRE DRIVERS INSTEAD OF OWNER OPERATORS ,. CAN ANYBODY ANSWER THIS QUESTION BESIDE C O M M U N I S M |
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Post by yanis on Apr 8, 2012 18:58:19 GMT -5
I am all for owner operator type of business. It is a model that serves all parties , I just wish if the 8.000 dollars goes towards elevating the rates instead of gathering the big guys i mean custumers like target , home depot , ikea etc to tell them to pitch in some money to put drivers in ownership position and make them haul for cheap. To me that's MISLEADING and infortunately some drivers are going for it
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Post by citytruck on Apr 8, 2012 21:13:05 GMT -5
first of all i'm a local short haul container owner operator trucker. i bought my truck fifteen years ago and it's paid for itself many times over. it's clean , dependable, and safe. drivers who have to lease a truck from the company shouldn't be in business. if you can't obtain outside financing or outright purchase your truck you are asking to be company slave from day one. that's no owner/operator situation to me. that's all good for the trucking company by making you an instant contractor plus making a cool profit off their junk. they are no better then a slum lord. only 15% of these guys who enter into a truck leasing agreement on a company truck actually finish paying for it. I had two good friends who did this. i did everything to talk them both out of doing it. they both said they couldn't ever save the money to put down on a truck from a sales lot so they bought trucks from two different container trucking companies. both ended up losing their trucks before the first year was over. in the first place they leased trucks that the companies had purchased for less then ten thousand dollars but these two drivers both paid over twenty five thousand each for these worn out fleet trucks. they both were upside down from the start never to come close money to what these two clunkers were worth. one was an old stevens reefer truck well over a million miles & had bad winter driving corrosion problems on every metal part including inside the cab. both trucks had been resold over six times apiece making this a nice racket for the two container companies. if you are going to be an owner operator find your equipment elsewhere other then the company. if you are going to haul containers do it in the east where you can still run older equipment which there is nothing wrong with doing but first have a little mechanical knowledge or best stay on a company truck. i see guys at the port every day that can't change a fuel filter or service their truck. this is no owner operator but a glorified company driver wannabe. these are the same drivers who can't tell what cost to operate their own truck so the rates stay in the crapper because of fools in the business.
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Post by wildman on Apr 9, 2012 11:28:22 GMT -5
You got that right citytruck, been around since 1974, never financed a truck. Only work local and put up with the GPA and ILA screw U around. Found if wanna go broke quick--finance, by whatever means--U already set to go broke. Run road--same senario. Just know it happens and seems more idiots walk into this cutthroat business thinking $$$, and there are thieves that help them see their way into poverty.
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Post by toomuch on Apr 9, 2012 22:24:23 GMT -5
that's a big problem. the more true truckers they lose at the port the more these companies try create their own contractor by selling trucks to dummies. just sign-n-drive. step right up and be a big time owner/operator. you don't own squat until it's paid for and your no operator if you haul for their chicken $#^t rates so best stay on that company owned truck until you take a few lessons in business management. maybe i don't work the 24/7 shift but those two / three days i chose to work i make more then most newbies do in eight days of hard running while they break their truck i go fishing.
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give up my truck? over my dead body! 
