gilco trucking?

[james]

i see gilco trucking is hiring independent contractors in savannah,georgia for port. any u guys know what the reputation of this company is? a lot of trucking companies are looking for trucks during holidays.

[cheezburger]

driver beware of these s#*t hole company's that are opening and closing every 6 months to a year they steal the drivers blind and then close and reopen under another name.and really beware when they are hiring when no one else is,that tells me no one wants to work for them. theres a reason

[SIDEKICK]

Can't tell you about Georgia driver but beware, Virginia operation is run by crooks.

[truckinforfools]

I hear GA operation has ripped off several truckers but now this is now a different group running Gilco in Garden City I'm told.(SavannahPorts) O/O beware, I wouldn't trust them either with their past track record driver.

[Stacey]

Sidekick....I run Gilco Trucking in Virginia, I pay 100% fuel surcharge currently 20%, Drivers are @ .95 cents + per mile guaranteed each way anywhere, Our billing is open for anyone to see. When you do your job and complete your paperwork you are paid. Gilco has never stolen money from drivers, The payday runs VERY smoothly, For those drivers that have borrowed money and then quit- yes I will get my money back!!It was a loan. If you leave my freight you committed to and quit without notice I will give your last pay a fine as you deserve. We are honest and have been in this business for 30+ years, You obviously have no idea who we are, If my drivers find greener grass somewhere else.. It is all good as long as they show courage for the choices they make and give me proper notice. If you test positive for crack and wreck equipment I am going to keep your escrow and offer accounting for every dime! I have been to court with the only driver on this site that has negatively scorned my business and she has failed to tell the truth..The judge ruled in my favor for the expenses her driver caused as she was unable to drive her own truck at the time. Perhaps she can explain why?
Some agents are not what they propose to be but they do not stay in business long certainly not 30 years. So please think before you mindlessly comment. Or TELL YOUR TRUTH right here right now and prove yourself to be honorable to you mouth. This website is a small negative piece of this community. There are many owner operators out there that Shirley has helped get into a business and they have used her money without even a thank you. There are others that have appreciated every dime. What goes around driver comes right back around. Please We invite you to visit our office ask your questions, make your accusations and we will be more than happy to answer with the TRUTH. Thanks for your professional opinion!

[acrossthejames]

"This website is a small negative piece of this community." ;D ;D ;D imagine that

[cornflake]

I bet the mileage pay is based on dropping the container off at 30,000 feet just over the edge of the zip code.

[cornflake]

Dec 15, 2010 17:28:07 GMT -5 @acrossthejames said:

"This website is a small negative piece of this community." ;D ;D ;D imagine that

I noticed that too driver but what a great negative piece of the community this website is!

[confusedtrucker]

I know the driver this jackass is talking about. The driver left because Gilco is such a screwed up company . Alot of drivers in the Hampton Roads area have been leased there and not a single one I know will ever go back. I have talked with a person who drives there who says he gets screwed over daily .
Shirley Roebuck started TMTA and all they do is talk of ways to take more money from driver to increase their profits, and that, came from agents who went to the meeting and will not go back to them.
Negativity ? so let me understand this, a driver who stands up for them self and their rights is a problem? It is because of these low life s#*t eating agents , that the rates have been kept the same if not forced even lower over the last 15 years. Fuel has more than trippled and the cost of living has soared and the rates have not increased more than 10% over time. The drivers who have balls and are willing to stand up for themselves will be here long after these s#*t companies are gone. As for Shirley , karma is a b*t@h isn't it !!!

[dirtyboy]

oh, i feel hostility toward the establishment on this page. maybe gilco will have to find some more crackheads to move their containers

[steelboxonwheels]

Gilco is typical for Hampton Roads. No respect for truckers at this port. This same wonderful person*Shirley R* used to run Marine Freight years ago with an iron fist. I worked there long enough to figure she was all about stuffing her own pockets while promising a line of BS to her drivers. Yeah honey .. you remember me with the nice dark blue KW. Good to see your rates still suck. I guess I'm one of those disgruntled drivers that doesn't appreciate every dime you tried cheating me out of. Maybe your office staff can have a thirty+year anniversary cookout for all the truckers you helped put out of business while building your empire!

[Stacey]

Once again Mr. Blue KW and confused--By being a coward and not revealing the Truth and who you are and your story Your peers only hear 2 ten year olds throwing stones. Every one of you have a story and both sides of your truths.. Our drivers do get screwed every day just like every other container hauler dealing with the ILA....Your facts are incorrect, Shirley NEVER started TMTA she only participated as she has with every organization offering education and a voice. Do you fellas have the same respect and dialogue with the forces that run this Port??As far as drivers in this city..ask them specifically how they were screwed, often you find they screw themselves. Obviously there is some hostility and by tucking your tails and running away it was never resolved, Sorry about that again your own choices..How bout posting the total revenue you generated when you worked?? keyword-worked! Realistically there is a bunch of negativity on this site-- Read it! Go back to when it started, there are still no answers. Only potential slander statements , gripes and Price fixing My comment was not pointed toward any single person just the site as a whole---I may be a jackass and I may have allowed crackheads to run my freight but Trust when they were caught, as they all will be, they were terminated.I guess that was my fault?? Whether you believe it or not Owner/Operators can go out and get their own authority, file their bonds, follow the safety regs, and hire a salesman to try and compete with the 500 haulers in Virginia any time they want to just as Shirley did in 1979. Let us know how it works for you. It is not an easy business but instead of voicing you complaints on a website try doing it on your own! If you have not, why don't you explain why not, right here! Not every driver in this city has to like me, as long as the honest, educated, positive ones that want to work do, I will keep on trucking.. This is my only goal....Good luck drivers!

[rr]

your drivers are ones that keep on trucking . not u.your only another agency pimp pretending to speak on behalf of area truckers while scamming the newbies . the only individuals u represent at any transportation meeting are the rest of your pimp buddies who try screw us in the ground. price fixing?thats laughable. u should know something about that practice. your the ones that control the rates paid out to the trucker around here. every time your slimy group gets together the agenda always turns back to control of the trucker. u constantly forget who butters your bread or pays for your above average life style. darling u have about as much credibility as the thieves over at the payday title store. maybe your shirley should start a warm and cozy lapdog forum where the driver talk is all about how wonderful your gilco agency is. i know a couple u have over there that would be good for just that. you know who i mean. if you stopped to quickly their head would be up your a$$.

[bdavis]

when we demand more stinking money from the companies they call it price fixing ;D

[pop]

they'll fix the prices alright if everyone could be convinced to shut down their trucks for two_three weeks.

[dropnhook]

Remember guys/gals before being to critical. :)There are many good trucking agents out here but their hands too are basically tied like us. I'm sure several would enjoy seeing the morons in this business gone forever. As drivers we must find a way to rid port trucking of the worst ones. You know who they are so why do others continue to go drive or lease to them? Figure that out and we'll be on the road to recovery

I haven't been on this site but only a few short weeks. So I have been reading some past post. I find this talk extremely interesting about the hiring hall scenario. I notice several of you have discussed this point on your forum. A driver hiring hall might be just the key to solving not only our own issues but those of trucking companies who would like to see some stability in a rate structure. I think it's worth further investigation by everyone in this group. OK, I'll step aside and let the talking heads continue on.

[cheezburger]

i think dropnhook is correct that we do have some good agents out there,they are stuck with trying to compete with the bad agents who are raping this industry for a few bucks,stealing what they can from there drivers,then moving on to something new.i had stated before that i was leased to Evans when i sold my truck,i think that was the case there,i was a owner-op for 32yrs and i can tell a bad broker when i see one.not the case here,she was more than fare to me but had to give cheaper rates to compete with every one else,its just a domino affect,I'm sure the good agents would like to see better money like us,if we could get the good agents on board with us it might help,when it is all said and done we need agents,just good ones,PS I'm talking about Savannah,and I'm sure there will be drivers who does not agree.IMAGINE THAT

[HardTimeTrucker]

A trucker hiring hall will work @ the ports but that will take driver numbers to implement. We have no one out here that's going to magically hand us anything for free. Somehow we must convince fellow truckers now is the time to organize for power before it's too late. A hiring hall would cover company drivers and O/O truckers alike under a collective bargaining agreement between the hall and the trucking companies. If done right there would be outside support for this type plan including many trucking companies who would participate. There are no anti trust issues with a hiring hall whereby owner/operators in the past have run afoul of federal law while trying to bargain for increased money as a group for their services. A hiring hall would bring rate stability to an industry that desperately needs it. I know there are those who don't like the idea of a level playing field but this current unstable system is not going to support our needs in the future.

There is another plan out here that millions of dollars has been spent on and continues to be spent on to unionize port truckers. However this plan is all about what's good for big labor. They are not concerned one bit with helping the owner-driver do anything other than lose his/her truck. We as O/O's are perceived as a threat to their aggressive green port driver campaign strategy so the potential of hundreds of thousands of new dues paying members trumps our right to ownership of an individual business.

The Teamsters Union Port Driver Campaign doesn't include any owner/operator option.
In fact the Teamsters from the start have been the driving force behind the clean truck environmental strategy to eliminate the O/O trucker. This labor backed take over of port trucking is being controlled/funded/scripted by Teamster leadership and the powerful labor group Change-to-Win acting under the disguise of the Green Coalition for Clean & Safe Ports. CTW is all about banning the O/O port trucker entirely. They're glad to let the ports authority carry out the CTW dirty work of implementing an employee mandate -or- simply forcing us out of business by requiring all our current trucks be replaced with new ones in order to enter the terminals. NO, you don't have to look far to see the green movement is pressuring the ports to ban specific year models making absolutely no exception what shape your rig is in.

We can sit back, look, listen, do nothing or stand up and make ourselves heard in 2011. There's no doubt we are about to witness a huge change in port trucking but what kind of change is up to all of you.

[Sisco]

My friends and I would really like to learn more about this hiring hall. We work in Hampton Roads Virginia. Is it possible to meet or discuss this over phone?

[stacey]

Collective bargaining is a process of voluntary negotiation between employers and trade unions aimed at reaching agreements which regulate working conditions. Collective agreements usually set out wage scales, working hours, training, health and safety, overtime, grievance mechanisms and rights to participate in workplace or company affairs.[1]

The union may negotiate with a single employer (who is typically representing a company's shareholders) or may negotiate with a federation of businesses, depending on the country, to reach an industry wide agreement. A collective agreement functions as a labor contract between an employer and one or more unions. Collective bargaining consists of the process of negotiation between representatives of a union and employers (generally represented by management, in some countries[which?] by an employers' organization) in respect of the terms and conditions of employment of employees, such as wages, hours of work, working conditions and grievance-procedures, and about the rights and responsibilities of trade unions. The parties often refer to the result of the negotiation as a collective bargaining agreement (CBA) or as a collective employment agreement (CEA

This is what you want?? Make it happen. Create your Union! Choose your rep. and start the process--Remember--Employer employee status is what the IRS is looking for right now. I own a truck and I surly do not want to be an employee of any agent! This strips my ability to write off my expenses in the end??
There may always be "haters" out there..I can not defend all agents as there is not always a defense, but to post widely with just an initial and so much hate is not productive. Believe what you need to to justify why your business is not successful but the truth remains the same. Call my drivers what you want but they are not running to pay your bills they are doing it for them selves. And to say Gilco is setting the rates is CRAZY..We have had to compete with every 2 & 3 truck operation, for the past 30 years, who are doing these moves for free just to stay in business.
Do you really believe that Gilco is Price Fixing?? Give me one instance when Gilco could ever tell anyone what to charge to run their freight, that is a joke. In this industry circle you can lose your business if you are in that practice. Hey it would be easier for my operation to know what everyone else was charging then I would just weed out the bad customers and only haul the easy loads. Nothing in this business is easy or consistent it is a crap shoot...Literally..Agents usually have to give 15-18% right off the top just to have the Insurance and Bonds covered?? How much profit is really left for that "above average lifestyle" if you are paying your trucks fairly? $50 -$75 bucks a load?? BIG MONEY...
Gilco has never been opposed to sharing our operations with the Owner-Operators that choose to join our fleet. If you have a jealousy of my drivers get over it, there is a reason they work well here and perhaps you are just misunderstood. If you sign my lease and you do not agree with something I offer you the opportunity to negotiate a change. As long as you agree to give me 5 days a week work and the option of a first come first serve choice of what freight we can get.
Gilco certainly does NOT have the power to control this community and has NEVER claimed to. We just want to run our business legally,fairly and without mindless, blind, hateful opposition. When you form Your Union and start your hiring hall you might be surprised that it just may work if it is done legally. Hey I would love to charge what your time and equipment is worth. I, daily average the amount of hours you have to struggle through the process and divide it by the money you make and sadly it is often $12 to $18 dollars an hour, If you could get the guy next door to raise the rates I will be right in line to do the same and raise the Owner/Operators pay!
Some agents go home at 5pm and totally forget you drivers are still out there leaving you with no contact, no assistance no money That is NOT Gilco's style and I do resent the hateful comments. Once again the DOOR is OPEN if you are hating let it go and come and resolve your issue. This world is full of hate & discontent, break the chain PLEASE STOP the blame game and Try to detail your concerns with priority and get with your Agents and get them resolved. Life is too short!

[goodsite]

This is a great website, you really find out who is good to work for and who is not. I can tell by the reactions that the people behind the desks give when they are fearful that the life they have created by the blood , sweat and tears of the owner operators out here is about to end.

[HR AGENT]

WELL SAID STACEY!

[agent]

Your right Stacey , gilco does not have anything to do with controlling rates around the Hampton Roads area because you are the last company on the motor carrier list that is called . Thank you for pulling cheap freight that everyone else has given a rate that would actually pay good to move . Just say no for once and quit taking the scraps out there gilco.

[HardTimeTrucker]

Well Stacey, I don't know who your directing your comments to but here are a few things to think about.

Without giving out specific details (which we'll be glad to discuss in a friendly sit down meeting) O/O-employee-status doesn't take anything away from the term owner-operator-which I happen to be myself-but does add the protection of operating our business under a hiring hall contract-yes we would be recognized by the carrier and IRS as an employee while driving our own truck but also as a business owner in the collective agreement. The fact of being an employee-lease/operator doesn't strip anyone's ability to write off any work related expenses on the equipment but does give us certain rights working as an employee under federal law that we don't have now. A legal trucker agreement between driver, O/O, motor carrier-serviced through the hiring hall structure would help give legitimate trucking operations protection by insuring better stability in the structure of rates. I'm also not going to disclose step by step how that would work but we know that smart people can connect the dots. I don't think I mentioned union, any particular union, or even starting a union but that remains a possibility. We're talking hiring hall/or to use the term loosely trucker temp service/of course there wouldn't be anything temp about this program.

BTW: Since you brought up the five letter word UNION, the ILA operates their shape up halls very similar to this. There are also other union hiring halls that employee owner/operator truckers in car-haul, tank, construction trades, and container hauling, YES, that's right, container haulers. I'm talking employee-lease-operators working under a collective bargaining agreement.

Oh yes, I was a union employee-lease/operator years ago pulling flatbed so this is a proven system that works. We were paid under a two check system employee check/equipment rental check..

Today like the majority hauling containerized cargo I am classified as an independent/contractor-owner/operator or whatever the intermodal trucking industry terminology deems their best interest to avoid conflict with any federal or state labor laws. As so far as company drivers are concerned they are employees but there are plenty companies out here who recognize them as independent contractors without holding proper ownership. They're issued 1099's each year. The IRS is about to become extremely aggressive with this next year so many companies had better beware. A hiring hall would benefit both O/O's and employee drivers who operate company owned equipment.

Every individual truck driver could become a member of the hall, not forced, allowed the chance to join.


I can't imagine anyone in your business given the opportunity to enjoy a more stable transportation environment due to the fact that truckers could be treated with respect and actually compensated for everything we did would wish port trucking remain stuck in the same gear....

[wandoroadguy]

hi hardtime this makes more d**n since than anything i have ever heard before. what would it take to get strted on a hiring hall in sc or any other port? i am a owner+operator and will join if this opens. can we have a meeting in charleston